This early carte-de-visite from India doesn’t have the young woman’s name on it, but it was listed for sale on eBay along with a few other photos from the same family, one of which had “Miss Collins” written on the back. The same young woman is in that photo, along with several young adults who may have been her siblings. I had hoped to buy the other photos as well as this one, but the bidding on those went too high.
The CDV was made by F.W. Baker, who operated his studio in Calcutta (Kolkata) from 1857 until 1869. In census records for Calcutta, I found a Frederick Worgan Baker, but I couldn’t confirm that he was a photographer.
In the next image, which I saved from eBay, you can see the same young woman seated on the floor. This CDV was also made at Baker’s studio. As I mentioned above, “Miss Collins” is written on the back:


I think the woman seated at the center of the group above is also in the image below:

Wouldn’t it be interesting to know something about this family?
[Note: the original title of this post was Miss Collins (?) in Calcutta by F.W. Baker]
Well,they’re all Indian by the look of them – apart from the man in the lower photo. Presumably what was (and unfortunately still is) regarded as a high-caste family or they’d not have been able to afford to pay a studio photographer. I find the backdrop fascinating – particularly with the mosaic-pillar studio prop.
My suspicion is that ‘Miss Collins’ isn’t in any of the photos – but it was sent to her.
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Yes, the pedestal is unusual, isn’t it? I’ve never seen one like it. You may well be right about the name. It will be interesting to hear what other readers think. The older man looks familiar to me, but I have no idea who he might be.
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I love their dresses! Great collection
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Yes, the dresses are very elegant. I wonder where they were made. I’m sure this family could afford to travel around the world.
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Yes, it is the first thing that it came to my mind as well and for that time it was not that common, like nowadays
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Very intriguing! I wonder if the young woman in the first photo was possibly leaving the country and wanted photos of her family to take with her.
The pedestal is so strange. It almost appears to be something from the future that somehow found its way into this photo. Dr Who might have the answer 😉
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A magical pedestal! I like it. 😉
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I’m wondering why the bidding went high on these. Is the photographer well known? Also the people in the photos look to me like they are mixed race. Half Indian, half white?
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Now that I’ve learned about Baker, I’d say he’s well-known, although I didn’t know anything about him when I was bidding on these. Early photos from India are highly collectible, but some subjects are rarer or more sought-after than others. Here’s an album of 30 cartes-de-visite by Baker, with some more information about him. It’s being sold by a rare book dealer at a price of £2950.00. (https://www.pbfa.org/books/30-extremely-scarce-albumen-carte-de-visite-photographs-by-renowned-fw-baker-calcutta-studio-depicting-indigenous-trades-and-social-classes-in-bengal)
I honestly can’t tell if the family above is all-Indian or Anglo-Indian. I wish we knew if their name was Collins or not!
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Interesting-thanks Brad! I know almost nothing about the history of India when it was a colony of Great Britain. My husband collects portrait photos by famous 19th century photographers, mostly French. He hasn’t hasn’t discovered Mr. Baker yet!
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India was a hotbed of photography in the 19th century, but I know little about it! The most famous studio was probably Bourne & Shepherd, also based in Kolkata. I’m even more ignorant about French studios of that time. So much to learn!
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My immediate thought was that Miss Collins might be a governess for the family, but Val’s suggestion probably makes more sense. The woman in the second-to-last photo looks very pregnant.
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I think the woman in the second-to-last photo is wearing a hoop skirt. It can be hard to tell! Photos of pregnant women are very rare from the 1800s. I’ve seen a few that were fairly obvious, but there must have been some sort of taboo against it. I have one cabinet card that I’m pretty sure contains a pregnant woman (USA). I should post it and see if readers agree.
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The Anglo-Indian family of a man who was himself a European, presumably British. All of them assimilated to the Victorian way of being. You wonder what their fates were given the rampant racism of the times. Never ceasing, of course.
So interesting! Sarah
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To me the man looks more Indian than British, but it’s impossible to be sure. The young woman in the first photo is dignified and beautiful, even regal. Yet a dissonance is created by the European clothing and studio props. The world has always been complicated and it always will be. Thank you, Sarah. Brad
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She’s quite beautiful. Very regal looking.
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I agree completely! There’s something in her bearing–expression, posture–that makes her seem regal. She’s very severe, yet if anything the severity makes her more striking and beautiful.
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All wonderful photos, but I especially love the cdv you were able to purchase. I wish I knew more about this photographer, but I’m of no help in that area.
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Baker was an important early documenter of life in India, yet he doesn’t have a Wikipedia page, and he’s referred to everywhere as F.W., as though no one ever tried to find out his name. It just goes to show that there’s plenty of room for research in the field of historical photography. Thanks, Sherri!
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My thought was similar to Val’s. i.e. that ‘Miss Collins’ was the recipient of the photo, and that she maybe was a governess or a teacher, and that one of her former pupils now sends the photographs to her. The clothes are clearly what people in Britain would have worn at the time. Also the hairstyles, reminded me of George Eliot.
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George Eliot, an interesting thought! This family could have read her books, and could even have met her if they traveled and had acquaintances in common. (She died in 1880, at age 61.)
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That’s immediately what I thought of the hairstyles, too – they reminded me of George Eliot.
These are fascinating photos. A good-looking family of wealth, it seems to me.
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I read Middlemarch many years ago and loved it. Thank you, Ruth!
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Wow. You can read so much into these pictures. The one constant for me is that they were definitely a family of means. Also, from their change of attire, the pictures were apparently taken at different times, meaning they employed the photographer on more then one occasion. In the picture of the couple, the man looks British to me. Perhaps he is the Collins since the genus of the Collins surname is Britain and Ireland. Could be that the young lady really is Miss Collins.
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It’s always fun to try to figure out what a photo can tell us. I was really curious to hear readers’ impressions of this one. The differences of opinion are very interesting. My gut feeling is that the Collins name probably wasn’t theirs, but it certainly could have been if the man was British or Anglo-Indian. Maybe the person who bought the photos of the group and the couple knows who they are. It would be very cool if that person found this post and joined the conversation!
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Very interesting images and family. I found my eye drawn to the accessories (hat and jewelry in the first image). Are you able to make out what is on the necklace medallion?
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Hi Lemony! I was particularly struck by her bracelets. I’ve zoomed in on the necklace and it appears to be a heart:

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The medallions at her waist have a star at the center:

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This group is the hardest to interpret of any I’ve seen you post. I’m convinced the man in the group photo is Indian or mixed race, but the man and woman are (to my eye) clearly British. From what I know of India, I can’t imagine that the women of a family would be photographed in such ways: sitting on the floor, in mixed company, and so on. Whatever else can be deduced, my guess is that this crew is living the high life, ex-pat style: perhaps a diplomatic or other posting to India had allowed them to establish themselves there.
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Do you subscribe to Luminous Lint? I just went over there, and found this information about Baker. I noticed the line at the bottom of the entry that says “Visual indexes for this photographer are available for subscribers.” Well, I bit. You can subscribe for $8 for one month — I’ll see what I can find about this fellow.
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Hi Linda, I found the same page at Luminous Lint that you did, but I’ve never subscribed. Good for you! I figure my Ancestry subscription should be enough, but who knows. Let me know what you think of the service. Your interpretation of the photos is very interesting! If this family is Indian, they’re certainly comfortable with Western styles and manners.
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I just got my password from the good folks at LLint, so I’ll poke around a little and see what I find. It’s worth the $8 just to know what’s inside the site!
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The young woman is very beautiful. I’m glad that you included the other two photos for reference. They’re a wonderful addition to her story. I’m not sure why exactly but the group portrait reminds me of something literary such as Little Women. I know that doesn’t have any bearing on the truth of this family but it’s one of those things that come to mind. I’m intrigued as well by the statuette by her side. I wonder at what a photographer chooses to be part of his photographs, or did he perhaps let her choose something from his collection that was to her liking… The details you are able to learn from your research amaze me every time. Well done Brad! 😊🌷
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Thank you, Suzanne! I know exactly what you mean about the group. The way they’re posed, intentionally but almost casually, in a variety of positions, looking in different directions. It conveys an intimacy between them which wouldn’t be there if they were all simply facing the camera. You don’t see these sorts of poses in modern portraits. I wonder why not?
I imagine she chose the statuette from Baker’s inventory. He may have suggested it to balance the curtain on the other side. Sometimes I find such props artificial, but I like this one. The portrait would be fine without it but I think it’s a nice addition.
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Miss Collins looks great.
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She was striking, whoever she was. Merci, Louis!
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Crown on the back of the photo and by appointment. I wonder if he was chose official photographer by the crown for the area.
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Sometimes when royalty used someone Ike a bookbinder or a tea company they would make them the official ” ” of the crown or something to that effect. Then the business could advertise they had that honor. Harney and sons Tea Company in NY was chosen as official Tea of the palaces in England maybe around 5 years ago. On the teas that were sold in Kensington and other palaces they were allowed to put a crown on the tea tins.
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Could be! I’ve since run across this photo, which shows Baker’s sign in the far distance on the right:

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Many photographers in Britain claimed to be “by appointment” to the royal family. I think some of them stretched the definition.
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They may have chosen different ones in different decades. Not sure Harney and Sons Tea Company still has that honor.
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Nice advertising for a photographer.
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